Beep币扑「Plan B」第二期对话:Team Just之「无人生还」?

嘉宾:TeamJust核心开发者Mantso和Justo
主持人:Beep币扑创始人小喵
分享主题:Team Just之「无人生还」?
分享时间:12月27日20:00

「Plan B」:Beep重磅打造的一档原生大V对话区块链大咖的线上AMA节目

导语:自12月23日Just Game上线以来,风波不断。为何临近上线,频频延期?9000多万TRX已经进入项目方口袋?早期投资者回本遥遥无期?Team Just接下来还会有什么挽救措施吗?12月27日晚8点,Beep币扑创始人小喵对话DApp圈顶级IP——TeamJust核心开发者Mantso和Justo,深入聊聊这个被戏谑为“上线即维权,入场即亏损”的明星游戏Just.Game,让我们一起探索,这个游戏是否最终会「无人生还」。精彩内容请看AMA精简。

问题一:Just Game上线之时,投资者们都异常期待,但是出师未捷,连续延迟上线了两次,请问当时是出现了什么问题?为什么测试网运行完好但是正式网却有那么多问题?

People actually were so thrilled about the official launch of Just Game, but it got postponed twice. What’s the real story behind the scene? Why does it suddenly not work since it worked totally fine in the testnet?

答:大家都知道,我们最终的测试网是很好的。但是,测试网和主网之间还是有很大的区别。我们尽可能策划了一个公平的启动计划,但是我们无法在测试网上进行测试。启动当天,数万人涌了进来,这超出了我们的预期,导致我们的启动程序出现了一些问题。但好在,我们花了不到半小时就解决了所有问题。不过即便如此,在那段修复的时间里,人们就已经开始在散布各种各样恐惧和质疑的言论。这是有原因的,我们稍后会解释。

The final testnet we had worked wonderfully well, as most people know. However, here is a big difference between testnet and mainnet. We had a launch procedure planned that was intended to be fair, but we couldn’t test on the testnet. On launch day, tens of thousands of people showed up. This was more than we expected. And unfortunately, this caused some issues with our launch program. Fortunately, it took us no longer than 30 minutes to fix all of the issues. But at that point, people are started to spread FUD around. And this is for a reason, but we will explain that later.

问题二:Just Game这款游戏筹备时长超过一年,然而正式开始还是没有那么顺利,用户质疑现有打造Just Game的团队是否是Fomo3D原班人马?并有谣言称曾经的团队成员Inventor和Sumpunk已经离开团队,你们可以对此阐述一下Team JUST团队的现有构成吗?

Just Game has been prepared for over a year but didn’t go that smoothly at the beginning, people are questioning if the team is the original team of Fomo3D and rumors are that Inventor and Sumpunk are not at the team anymore. Could you guys give us more details about team JUST?

答:JUST团队的两个核心成员是:Mantso(技术架构师)和Justo(设计架构师)。 我们是创始成员,也是核心。我们是每个创意(P3D,F3D,JG)背后的两个人,通过我们共同的努力才使这些游戏如此疯狂。我们用心理学知识使我们的游戏为大家提供最独特的体验,同时我们也有技术使这些想法落地。

The two core members of Team JUST are: Mantso (Technical Architect ), and Justo ( Design Architect). We are the founding members, and are the core. We are the two people behind every idea (P3D, F3D, JG) - our combined brainpower is what makes these games so crazy. Between Justo and mantso, we have the psychological knowledge that make our games such a unique experience, as well as the technical know-how to get it working for you to play with.

对于不同的游戏,我们可能与不同的人一起工作。 大多数项目会有不同的团队组成。 Sumpunk还是社区的成员,也会帮忙回答一些twitter上的问题。

For different games, we may work with different people. It will be different for most projects. Sumpunk is part of the community staff and answers questions/helps out

问题三:在游戏之初,有用户用脚本合约进行购买盒子,然而这种做法是官方提前声明不被允许的,为什么在筹备期间没有部署有效措施来避免这种“不公平”行为呢?

At beginning of the game some people were using script to buy boxes which is actually not allowed. Why would you guys not conduct any precaution to avoid this?

答:实际上,我们确实尝试过并成功的阻止脚本和机器人了。 当JUST.GAME网站刚上线的时候,它是完全屏蔽了机器人的。智能合约成功屏蔽了机器人的20,000+笔交易。

我们启动程序背后的逻辑是,人们都会加载我们的网站,并且每个人都加载了网站后,我们将“激活”游戏,这样人们可以正常购买。但是,当我们激活游戏后,一些网络浏览器会出现问题,导致人们无法购买,与此同时,机器人脚本也开始正常运行了。我们理解这引起了大家的一些不满,但好在,所有这些问题均已在前30分钟内解决。

This is an understandable question. We actually did try to stop the scripts and bots and it was successful. When JUST.GAME site was put online, it completely blocked bots at first. The idea behind our launch procedure was that people would all load the website, and once everyone had the website loaded, we would “activate” the game and people can buy in normally. This worked: the smart contract successfully rejected about 20.000 transactions from bots. However unfortunately, once we activated the game for people to play, some webbrowsers had issues and could not buy in, meanwhile the bot scripts started to play normally. This caused some frustration and we understand that. Fortunately all those issues were fixed within the first 30 minutes.

问题四:迄今为止,Just Game最为人诟病的是投资回报率问题。即使是早期玩家,回报率也并非令人满意。有用户质疑是由于团队拿走过高比例而导致的失衡:大概流水的23%(目前将近1亿trx),请问最初团队获取的比例是怎么计算的?你们有考虑到目前这种状况发生的可能性吗?你们认为目前种情况是比例失衡的结果吗?

People complain the most is about the ROI.Even if for the early players, their ROI is not satisfying. The main target is that the team got almost 23% of the revenue (almost 1 billion trx ), how do you guys calculate the proportion at the first place and have you ever thought about this awkward situation coming? Do you guys regard this as a disproportion mistake?

答:人们已经忘记了,Fomo3D的最初一周与现在JUST.GAME的状态几乎相同。
在Fomo3D的初期,许多人也抱怨没有投资回报率。这是正常现象,游戏才刚刚开始,还不是所有人都知道这个游戏怎么玩。人们需要花费几周的时间来了解游戏并得出最佳策略是什么。
我们认为JUST.GAME在各个方面都是Fomo3D的进阶版。因此,一旦人们开始意识到这款游戏该怎么玩的时候,Fomo就开始了。

What people have forgotten, is that the starting week of Fomo3D was almost the same for the week we have now with JUST.GAME. In the beginning of Fomo3D, a lot of people complained about not having ROI. This is normal, the game has just started and not everyone understands it yet. It takes a few weeks for people to learn the game and understand what the best strategies are, that’s OK! We consider JUST.GAME an improvement on the Fomo3D formula in every way. So, once people start to realize the game, the Fomo will start…

作为经验丰富的开发人员,我们团队比任何人都更了解产品生命周期的样子。 现在JUST.GAME所处的这个阶段,我们已经发生过了两次。一次是P3D刚开始时只有几千美元,但在最高时涨到了100,000 ETH。 然后再是F3D,它刚开始时也只有300 ETH,但最高也超过过100,000 ETH。
这只是重复的现象,JUST.GAME与我们之前的项目在启动时的状态相同,并且具有相同的表现。

I want to explain this more clearly. We as Team JUST as experienced developers and we know better than anyone what product lifecycles look like. The phase we are in right now in JUST.GAME, we have seen this happen twice already. Once with P3D - it was only a few thousands dollars at the beginning - but went up to 100.000 ETH at it’s peak. And then again with F3D, which also only had 300 ETH in the beginning, and also processed more than 100.000 ETH in it’s life. This is just a repeat, JUST.GAME is in the same place our previous projects were at launch, and it has all the same symptoms

人们是会操纵情绪的。现在有一群鲸鱼,试图让人们感到恐慌,以便他们打开盒子。 你可以问问自己,恐慌真的奏效了! 这些鲸鱼已经知道会有一个恐慌周期,因此它们试图吓人们进行抛售。但请记住,人们意识到“JUST.GAME的奖池只会越来越大这个事情”只是时间问题。

It’s the FUD / FOMO cycle.
You must understand how the psychology of these games work. People manipulate emotions. There are groups of whales right now, trying to make people panic so that they open their boxes. And you can see it yourself, it is working. These whales already know that there’s going to be a FOMO cycle, so they are trying to scare people into selling. Remember, the prize pool of JUST.GAME will only grow bigger and bigger… it’s only a matter of time before people realize.

至于抽水问题,我们在wiki和网站上都有更新具体细节。我们一开始并没想到大家会介意这个问题,因为这个抽水是远低于Fomo3D的。Fomo3D有20%到了另一款游戏(p3d),10%可以到了下一轮游戏,10%去了联盟游戏,还有10%给到了其他。这就意味着给玩家的钱减少了。 Just.game给玩家的收益比任何以前的游戏都更多。 您可能没有意识到这一点,但是仔细研究fomo3d的原理,您会发现just.game非常慷慨,游戏中超过50%的钱会打赏版税(royalties)。而且,这个抽水并不高,这些钱是用来在联盟游戏中运转的,比起说钱是围着我们转的,其实更是围绕着玩家们自己转的,我们希望这个游戏可以有良性循环。玩家在这里得到的更多,无论是royalties还是promotions。

Itt think it would be a problem if it was way more generous than fomo3d. Fomo3D had 20% go to another game (p3d), 10% go to the next round, and 10% go to affiliates, as well as multiple other systems (10%) that went elsewhere. Meaning it had much less go to the players. Just.game gives more % to the players than any previous game. You might not have realized this, but look through how fomo3d works and you will see just.game is very generous. More than 50% of the money into just.game goes to royalties. The percentage is not high, the money is supposed to be spread to the affiliate system. Now that players are using promotions a lot more will be spread around to them instead of us. We want this because it makes the game healthy. The amount players get is much higher here. In both royalties and promotions. 

问题五:孙宇晨貌似在twitter上删除了之前关于Just Game的AMA,视频等,请问这是不是意味着你们和TRON之间的友好关系出现了问题?

It seems that Justin Sun deleted the AMA and video post about Just Game. Does that hint a crack between the relationship of you guys and TRON?

答:孙宇晨很高兴让我们在他的平台上启动游戏,他是Fomo3D出了名的支持者。
尽管我们与TRON没有任何合作关系,但由于Justo和Justin(孙宇晨英文名)的相似之处,人们更愿意把Justo当作Justin的化名。 我们认为他对这个游戏非常兴奋。并且JUST GAME使TRON在技术上看起来非常出色,因为它展示了区块链的可能性。我们是第一个在区块链上展现AI的先驱者。

Justin Sun was obviously very excited to have us launch this software on his platform. He was a well known supporter of the Fomo3D. We don’t have any partnership or relationship with TRON organization although, people like to pretend the name Justo is secretly Justin because of the similarities. We think he was very excited to play the game, and the game makes TRON look very good with the technology, as it shows off what’s possible on the blockchain. We’re the first to showcase precursor A.I. on blockchain.

问题六:你们早前提到将会有100种方法来让Just Game火起来,而且也准备了一系列好消息,是否可以透露一下?

You guys have mentioned about there are 100 ways to make this game work and also some good news lined up. So what’s the plan or good news to boost the game?

答:JUST.GAME有上百种赚钱的方式。
根据我们过去在Fomo3D和P3D上的经验,我们知道JUST.GAME将会有一个爆炸式的恐慌周期,因为物质激励(例如最后的100个,故障,忠诚度和版税)每天都在增长!
与我们之前的游戏一样,即使Team JUST没有计划新的推广计划,这个游戏还是会十分火爆。不过,JUST团队确实有一些特殊的推广计划。

JUST.GAME has more than 100 ways to earn. Based on the past experience we have with Fomo3D and P3D, we know that JUST.GAME is going to have a really big FOMO boom cycle because the financial prizes (like last 100, the glitch, loyalties and royalties) only GROW every single day! It’s the same as our previous game. Even if Team JUST had no new boosts planned, the game will still explode in popularity. But Team JUST does have some special boosts planned. 😉

现在有一群聪明的人故意散布关于游戏的恐慌和不良情绪(例如负面的ROI),促使害怕的玩家打开盒子并退出游戏。这对于那些聪明的人是有好处的,因为当有人打开盒子时,他们会获得更多的(royalties)忠诚度。而当下一个恐慌周期开始时,这些聪明的人将赚取所有因为恐慌而退出人的份额。他们非常了解游戏的机制,因为一旦Glitch开火,所有的盒子都变得更便宜了,这足以引发一个新的周期。

There’s a group of smart people now intentionally spreading panic and bad emotions about the game due (like negative ROI), so that scared players open their boxes and exit the game. This is good for those smart people, because they gain more royalties when someone opens their boxes. When the next FOMO cycle starts, these smart people are going to earn the most because all the scared players have . They know the mechanics of the game well because as soon as the Glitch fires, all the boxes become cheaper to buy and that’s enough to spark a new cycle.

但除此之外, 我们相信JUST.GAME会蓬勃发展。并且,我们也将做一些以前从未做过的事情。我们会把自己的TRX引入游戏中,并为目前处于观望状态的大玩家提供专门的激励。

But all that aside. We know that JUST.GAME is going to boom. But we’re going to do something we’ve never done before. We’re going to put our own TRX into the game, and give specialized promotions to big new players who are on the sidelines right now. Stay tuned for more info at the end of the AMA!

特别活动:

目前最大的问题是,我们会怎么处理9700万的TRX?我们将举办哪些特别的宣传活动?实际上,我们并不打算提取这一笔钱。

我们曾想过要把这笔钱都投入到比赛中去,但是我们打算做一些更疯狂、更有价值的事情来保持活动的运转和生命力。以下是我们策划的一系列FOMO事件:

FOMO事件:第一阶段

我们知道有很多人还没有买到盒子,还在场外等着进场,所以我们要帮助他们。

在1月10日,我们将为那些想买很多盒子的人提供很大的折扣。在当天,购买盒子最多的前十名榜单中的新用户将得到额外的33%盒子。这意味着他们将更快实现33%的投资回报率,从而更大程度地降低风险。我们将从消费大户中挑选,请务必在购买盒子前和我们先取得联系。

-需要满足-

1.必须使用TronLink。
2.必须至少花费1000万TRX。
3.如果您有兴趣,请在购买前先将以下信息通过邮件发送给我们:promo@ just.team`
3.1主题:“ FOMO Event signup”
3.2文字:写下您预计要花费多少TRX
3.3文字:输入您的TRX地址
4.确保我们可以回复您的电子邮件地址
5.1月5日前完成活动报名

我们知道有很多想买盒子的鲸鱼还在观望。这是你仅有的一次机会,可以便宜购买盒子。我们只会选出10个消费最多的用户。如果你有兴趣,请邮件我们。

FOMO活动:阶段2
在1月10日,在阶段1活动的基础上,我们将实现每1亿 TRX返还1000万TRX活动。这也就意味着,很有可能我们会把全部的9700万 TRX都返回到游戏中。

如果你想要在1000万 TRX以内买到盒子,那么就是现在了!接下来,巨鲸即将登场!

SPECIAL EVENT

The big question, what about the 97m TRX? What about special boost events we will run? Let us be honest about that. We did not intend to withdraw this amount of TRX. So we have something special planned for it. We have thought about putting it all back into the game, but we are going to do something even crazier and more valuable with it to promote the pump and health of JUST.GAME.  Let us present what we have planned;

The FOMO event

FOMO EVENT: PHASE 1

We know theret bought boxes yet and are waiting on the sidelines to enter JUST.GAME. So we are going to help them out.

On 10 January, we are going to give a BIG discount to people who want to buy a lot of boxes. The TOP 10 NEW biggest purchases into JUST.GAME on Jan 10 get 33% more boxes. This means 33% quicker ROI, reducing the risk significantly! We will pick from the biggest buys, you must contact us before buying boxes!!

How to qualify:

1. Must use TronLink.

2. Must spent at least 10M TRX.

3. If you are interested, dons a lot of whales on the sidelines that want to buy boxes. This is your one-time, limited opportunity to get in cheaper. We wons a big chance that will now put the full 97m TRX back into the game.

If you are looking to buy in with less than 10m TRX, right now may be a good time to play. The whales are coming.

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